Chief Inspector Bethell aptly explains, Re-opening the case is as much about proving who didnt do it, as who did. Remember that Hoyles was suspected of Muriels murder for decades and lived under a cloud suspicion that followed him everywhere he travelled in his small village. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. We are hoping to make a BBC documentary (follow on from Dark Son) to see if we can shed any new light on the case. But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. I agree with the killer being male and the suggested age range. Her mother Margaret watched from the house as the youngest of. I contacted D.S. Was a local stalking Muriel? Forensic historian Nell Darby found similarities in the case of Muriel Drinkwater and the later Ronnie Harries farmhouse murders in old newspaper articles from the time. It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Neil. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. The D.N.A. I am making a F.O.I. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. This forensic approach is becoming more common. Her route to her family's home Tyle-Du Farm entailed a mile-long journey that wove in and out of the woods. Regards. Victor said that the programme had made him suspicious as to whether Florences killer Harold Jones who had been released from a 20 year prison sentence in 1941 for the Abertillery murders was responsible for 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwaters death. But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts found a semen stain found on Muriel's coat. Video, 00:02:56, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. 2023 The True Crime Files. Muriel Drinkwater murder: Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? And I also think there are likely more victims. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. There is little doubt that Muriels murderer was lying in wait, just counting the minutes until he could commit his heinous crime. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect . [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. "The farm was a painful place for my grandparents to be," said Martin, who still keeps a little battleship toy that Muriel had given him. He could not be placed at the scene, and the DNA ruled him out of the investigation. Two days later, police found one of the murder weapons, a World War I-era Colt .45 pistol. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. The comments below have not been moderated. Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the Specialist Crime Review Unit said: 'The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! Play it now! Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. Learn more about managing a memorial . Yet, despite their exhaustive enquiries - not to mention the discovery of the gun used in Muriel's shooting - the culprit managed to evade justice. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. The True Crime Files Video, 00:00:36Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece. 'I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Lloyd-Evans told me that he was convinced that a suspect regarding Muriels murder would soon be identified through D.N.A. The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. The case, which became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. "My grandparents changed completely. Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near Despite a number of leads and suspects, police have not been able to identify her killer. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. This true crime happened in Penllegaer Woods on the outskirts of Swansea in 1946. On June 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Only the exhumation of Jones body or D.N.A. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Request number 772/21. There was another murder in 1943. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! They also announced in May 2019 that Abertillery double child killer Harold Jones had also been cleared of Muriels murder. Jones killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. Photo added by Tracey. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. Posted by 8 minutes ago. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". He can't understand why people would think he killed them. 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'All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as 'cold cases,' are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. He is very clearly interested in the fact that she is young, that she is a schoolgirl, and also that she is very clever. Neil. "The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Harold Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater," says DCI Mark Lewis, head of the unit. Hi Neil. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? Officers are now examining a semen stain on Muriel's coat to see if it can be linked to Jones. I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Psychic Diane Lazarus Investigates Muriel Drinkwater Murder - YouTube 0:00 / 21:56 Sign in to confirm your age This video may be inappropriate for some users. The team also uncovered a book that had once belonged to Muriel but was found in a Carmarthen charity shop. She had been raped, bludgeoned about the head and shot twice in the chest. There is no doubt about that.". It was supposed to have been abandoned in 1944 but I know there were GIs who married Swansea girls still around in 1946. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. This was a big news story at the time. Todays' video is about the true crime story of the unsolved murder of 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. ", Muriel Drinkwater who was killed in June 1946. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. First he lived in Fulham with a former London Metropolitan Police officer John Widdows and his daughter Muriel whom he married in 1948. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Their bodies were found buried in a Carmarthenshire kale field in 1953 you can read the full story here. The killer was dubbed Jack The Stripper because of the way he left his victims. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. What a big moment in this case! Another wait and see. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Video, 00:02:36, Up Next. Neil Milkins. 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[11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. "[14][5], In 2020, the BBC One documentary Dark Land: Hunting the Killers suggested that Ronnie Harries could be the murderer. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. Mark Lewis by email of this fact but my email was ignored. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. And please do not forget tosubscribe to the podcast and leave us a review. (My belief now is that the suspect he referred to was Hubert Hoyles who as a 13 year-old boy had come into contact with Muriels family shortly before her murder. 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However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. If you can contact [emailprotected] Id really appreciate it. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. Those who have not failed may not have succeeded. Hi Neil Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. Interesting insights! Psychic Diane Lazarus. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. However in 1965 he was registered as Harry Stevens in Putney AND at the same time he rented a property in Aldensley Road Hammersmith and was also registered but using the name Harry Jones. Are you able to tell me if her father has been cleared via DNA profiling?. I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. It is now more than 70 years since the 12-year-old schoolgirl was brutally raped, battered around the head and shot twice while walking home. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. Muriels niece is in a dreadful state. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. To see documentary google Dark Lands Muriel Drinkwater iplayer. For decades, a key person of interest in Muriels murder has been Hubert Hoyles. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. An autopsy later determined that Muriel had been bludgeoned, raped, and shot twice in the chest. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. Video, 00:01:00, At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. Just put my name in Facebook bar. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Your work keeps this case alive and I hope it will one day reveal the true identity of Muriels killer. Video, 00:01:18, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Hi Neil. They pieced together evidence from the time, used new forensic breakthroughs and links to other cases in the area to identify who they think murdered Muriel in the most horrific way. I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! Hard to work out the logic of your comment Charlotte? Regards. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Muriel Drinkwater. We got a partial profile, given that it was the oldest cold case with a semen stain on it that we had been working on.". She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? The gun was described as aColt 45 American army issue automatic pistol, first issued for World War I but probably also used in World War II, which significantly had the original wooden stocks next to the grip modernised with perspex.. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. I am not a DNA scientist so sadly I cannot answer this question for you. After a previous visit to the Drinkwater family farm, Hoyles was surprised when a man in his thirties withthick fluffy hair and wearing brown corduroy trousers and a light brown sports jacket stepped from the bushes at exactly the same location where Muriel was later ambushed. Will do Christine. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. Another witness came forward to tell the team that Ronnie Harries had worked on a farm in Penllergaer, evidence that was supported from a newspaper cutting at the time. A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. Her mother was in the kitchen and . In 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was murdered in the woods of Swansea, Wales. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). ', Glamorgan Police and men of the 169th Bomb Disposal Unit make a break for a meal during their search for evidence after her murder on June 27, 1946, Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. 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